Is the the Church able to declare Mary as co-Redemptrix?

Here’s the news story: Pope calling proposed development of Marian doctrine ‘nonsense’ doesn’t change truth: theologian [].

I believe that Mary has a role as Mediatrix, co-Redemptrix, Advocatrix. However, the Church cannot merely declare that she is those things, or that she has those titles. The Church did not declare, simply and without definition, that Mary had an Immaculate Conception. Instead, the Church taught the meaning of that term. The dogma itself does not even use the phrase “immaculate conception”.

Dogma: “We declare, pronounce, and define that the doctrine which holds that the most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instance of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved free from all stain of original sin, is a doctrine revealed by God and therefore to be believed firmly and constantly by all the faithful.” [Ineffabilis Deus]

Certainly, the term is in the document: “we concluded that we should no longer delay in decreeing and defining by our supreme authority the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin.” But if the Church had simply declared that Mary had an immaculate conception, without defining what that term means, it would not be dogma. Dogma is teaching, not terminology.

So the Church cannot infallibly teach that Mary is Mediatrix, co-Redemptrix, Advocatrix — not without first defining those terms. And as they are currently understood, the terms are in error. Mary has a role that could be properly applied to those terms. But the common understanding is different from that true role.

Here is my booklet describing the proper understanding of those terms. Some excerpts from the booklet are here.

So the time is not right for a theological definition of this triune role (which is a reflection of the Trinity). If the Church defined these roles, She would have to give a definition different from the common one, and in the current climate of the Church — in which conservatives and liberals feel free to stand in judgment over the Magisterium, rejecting whatever they dislike — it would not be accepted.

It is also a grave sin of pride to speak to or about the Pope as if he needs to be taught or corrected by you, or by the conservative Catholic subculture. It is sinful to assume that the current understanding of this triune role is perfect and entirely without error, when the Church has not yet given a definition. Only when the faithful submit themselves to the Magisterium can this role be defined.

Mary herself prevents the Magisterium from defining this role, as she does not wish to impose on the faithful something they are not willing to accept. Since they are currently rejecting the authority of the Magisterium and the correct understanding of this three-part role, she asks Christ not to grant this definition to the Church.

Neither will it be granted to the Church as long as it is connected to the false private revelations of Ida Peerdeman or other false visionaries. They must be condemned, before it can be taught as dogma; otherwise, the definition would do more harm than good in the short term.

I mean this very sincerely and with a high degree of (merely human) certitude. Mary does not wish this definition to be declared, until the faithful prepare themselves to receive it. If you die in the state of grace, but also are not ready for Heaven, you go to Purgatory. Mary doesn’t want the faithful to go to Heaven until they are ready. Similarly, she doesn’t want the faithful to have this definition, until they are ready.

And all these prideful expressions against the Roman Pontiff are hindering progress toward being ready.

Ronald L. Conte Jr.

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2 Responses to Is the the Church able to declare Mary as co-Redemptrix?

  1. Thomas Joseph says:

    Mary, the Mother of Jesus is the Mother of God, the Theotokos, that is the God-Bearer. There is no need for any other Dogma of Faith. I wish people would refrain from making the Catholic Faith an ideology and or a Philosophy of Ideas. Mary, is the Mother of the Church by virtue of being the Mother of God. To declare such an unscriptural description of Mary as Co-Redemptrix is to set-back Christianity Unity for centuries. Mary at Feast of Cana told the Servants: “Do what He tells you!” – that is Mary’s role to always lead us to gaze upon the Holy Face of Jesus.

  2. Robert Fastiggi says:

    Dear Ron,

    The LifeSiteNews healdline is misleading. In his Dec. 12, 2019 homily, Pope Francis never directly called proposals for a new Marian dogmas to be “nonsense.” He said “Let’s not get lost in foolishness.” The Holy Father might have meant let’s not get so over-preoccupied with proposals for new dogmas that we lose sight of what is essential about Mary. I explain more about the Dec. 12 homily here:
    This article might also be helpful. This article comments of the April 3, 2020 homily by Pope Francis in which he also refers to the Marian title, “co-redemptrix.”:

    I agree with you that Fr. Lanzetta (the theologian referred to in the LifeSite article) should have been more respectful towards Pope Francis.

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